To be fair, Iāve never put in the time to master your deck, so I was speaking mainly from my own respectable but not exorbitant success with it (and the fact that Iāve never seen anyone else play it). Iāll ladder with it this upcoming season and see how it feels once Iāve really gotten its ins and outs. However, while I believe that itās complicated to play well, thereās no way that itās harder than that tempo list: Sleet Dasher, Letigress, and the spells/repositioning options lead to some insanely complicated lines.
Why is Vanar so high cost?
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I find Abyssian more difficult and perhaps weaker than Vanar. Apart from their solid aggro lists maybe? What am I missing in the big picture?
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Owlbeast is a neutral card.
Also Winterblade and Iceshatter Gauntlet can work together but only if you equip Iceshatter Gauntlet AFTER Winterblade, because artifacts trigger their effect in the order they are equipped. Read more about it on the wiki (thatās what we have it for).
I saw you playing an Ilena Artifact deck but mishandling the combo because of the order you equipped your artifacts. This is why Aspect of the Bear is so amazing, it creates a 5health minion which canāt counterattack.
This is Zohanās version.
This is Ponchoās version.
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I know you didnāt ask me, but Iād say (assuming the meta didnāt change much after the times I played Dooli myself) that Crown Lilithe is very good, and has a positive matchup against any non Reva Wanderer, which is a thing to consider.
Speaking of aggro, Abyss has different aggro lists for every general with varying efficiency. All-in swarm for Lil, burn/aggro for Cass and Swarm/Tempo/Aggro Maehv (not DW) are 3 completely different aggressive decks of varying efficiency, each of them with own pros and cons.
And DW Maehv with or without Abomination is pretty strong and highrolly.
All in all, Iād say that probably Abyss is kinda close to Vanar in terms of power, but is much easier to play (at least for me) due to each of their decks (and cards) being pretty streamlined. Deckbuilding is flexible - deck piloting is not, contrary to Vanar, which is flexible in both of these aspects, thus more difficult to play.
But given pretty close power level, Vanar actually sucks against multiple threats.
Correct me if Iām wrong.
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One more big thing is that Abyssian is one of the better Wanderer factions itself, which gives it another high-tier deck. It also has a few other solid tier 2 options like Arcanysts and Hybrid Xor.
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How could I forget about Arcanysts, silly me 
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Ummm. Indeed. Lol.
You ok?!
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Amazing how many metas CP messed up in a row back than
First meltdown RNG hell
Than arcanyst vanar with an āanswer or dieā 2drop that is fairly tough and magmar with their 5/9 lavaslasher
Than finality vaath which might have been the most busted deck i witnessed
Looking back-duelyst probably deserves to be this close to death given how often CP completely butchered the meta
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ah shit, complaint threads just like in the good old days
immediate 30 replies
Speaking of this, I got Maser to log in and play some, and his Vanar deck blew my god damn mind
Its nothing weird or otherworldly but I havent seen Shiro Puppydragon since i was in like silver when i started playing
And Cryogenesis is also in the deck
I dont even think that card is bad, but people dont play it i dont get
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Honestly i prefer the complaint threads over the coma-state the forum gets stuck in quite often these days
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Maserās Vanar deck has 41 wins and 7 losses.
Whatever that means 
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It got nerfed a while ago, use to be 3 mana. At 4 mana its ok, but sometimes feel awkward imo.
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At least two of there are disconnects too 
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