Theorycraft : Cataclys'Mill'? Help me try this deck

[reignzu]

Hello fellow Duelyst.

I have an idea to create a deck (probably gimmicky), the idea is similar to Vanar Mnemovore+Ice age but here we use Exhuming sand tiles to mill.
We try to summon alot of tiles with Vet cards like Arid unmaking, Sickle artifact, Cataclysmic fault, Sandswirl.
Different with Ice age that make you wait for 8mana to get the combo, here if possible you cast Cataclysmic at 6 mana and then at 7 mana, summon Mnemovore which will trigger the tiles and summon iron dervishes. 3 cards milled for every iron dervish.
And if Mnemovore still on board, repeat summon a minion to trigger the tiles again.
Accumulonimbus is also useful for milling and deal damage.

The problem is I really(100times) want to try this deck but i don’t have some of the cards to try it. (The only card i have that can create sand tiles is only Sandswirl) #feelsbad

Someone who play Vetruvian and have all these cards in the image. Could you please try this? How good is it?

If you have another version of your Vet mill deck or have some suggestion please go ahead.

Thank you for your attention. May the RNG bless you.

[deathsadvocate]

I think your best bet would be a small modification of this list. Trade out Primus or Sandswhirl for Mnemovore to serve as an awkward back up to Kha and you should be good to go. I may give it a test in the near future, but my gut tells me that Mnemovore will never be more then a meme.

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San Andreus Zirix: Obelysk/Fault Highly Competitive/Still testing.

http://www.bagoum.com/deckbuilder#MToyMDEsMzoyMDA5NSwzOjIxMSwzOjIxNCwzOjI0MywzOjE5MDM3LDM6MjAwOTksMzoyMDI2NSwzOjIxNSwzOjIwMzU3LDM6MjAyNTQsMzoyNjAsMzoyNDYsMzoyMDI2Mg==

San Andreas is a large city and is also known for the San Andreas Fault.

Since dervishes lost whisper its a lot harder to play the aggro game, so instead I am favoring a much more lategame snowball effect with fault, Kha, and Nimbus, using Oblysks as a zoning/stall tool.

Reassemble is a really solid card for the archetype but it is especially potent when used on the 5 mana turn to save a 0 cost summon to use with Cataclysmic Fault on the 6 mana turn. The deck has a lot of dervish synergy with fireblaze, dunecaster, Kha, and to a lesser extent primus fist, all of which can really turn dervishes of any sort into really scary monsters with lots of reach. Combine that with Sandswhirl/BOA for removal and its a very well rounded deck.

This deck looks to really dominate the early game and create a zone your opponent wants to stay away from with Obelysks. While the deck can play aggressively if it needs to, especially if your opponent comes into your zone, its greatest strength is in forcing your opponent to back away and then transitioning into Cataclysmic Fault to close the game out, which has become much more powerful thanks to how it combos with the decks latest superstar Khanuum-Ka.

Khanuum-Ka really pull the deck together solving bad dervish spawns, letting you cash in on an entire fault immediately, and just being a powerful card all around. Vs Vaath/Lancer/Artifacts it can just win a game instantly, vs things like brome and the like it can be used as AOE, but be warned while the deck is very powerful the rope is your biggest enemy! Trying to move dervishes, summon kha, and proc fault, and then actually get all of his attacks in with his slow random re-summon can really eat into your turn, but with speedhack, practice, and knowing you need to move fast it is doable.

With this deck I usually move forward and drop obelisks either right behind or in front of my general, or go and hug the top middle portion of the map placing them against the wall so they spawn forward. Obelysks can be a bit tricky, but if you get the hang of positioning them they can provide endless value. A couple positioning tricks to know about: The first is playing them towards the middle of the map early on and using your general to block the path to them. Another is manipulating where your dervishes are going to spawn, there are two ways to do this: the first is just putting units in spots you don’t want spawns, the second is if you have baited your opponent towards a wall you can place the obelysk against the wall eliminating three usually undesirable spawn locations. Remember Oblysks can overwrite each others spawns so be careful positioning them next to each other.

Its a very strong deck, but it can be tough to play, and you always have a little reliance on RNG due to dervish spawns, although Kha helps a lot there. Your lack of healing means you need to play aggressively vs aggro, and you have an inherent weakness to plasma, but the decks brute power, speed, and late game potential help make up for its inherent weaknesses. What makes it such a monster is decks are usually good vs oblysks or fault, but not both.

[phoinexflame]

I have tried a Vetruvian mill deck that loooks like this:

It actually had a solid win rate, but that is more do the solid golem package than to Mnemovore. In fact, out of the 3 games wheree I fully milled my opponent I still lost 2 of them and almost lost the third one (One loss was against Brome, it doesn’t matter that he doesn’t have any cards left when he has an unstoppable board. Lost №2 was from an aggresive/burn Sajj who happened to be able to finish me off with the last cards in her hand, and I almost lost to a milled Lilithe do to double desolater spam )

My conclusion is that to make Mnemovore work you need to design your deck in a more control like style, sadly Vet is tied with Abyss for the faction with the worst AoE (Circle of Dessication would actually be a good card here, too bad it rotated out…) and lacks in- faction healing (although this could be solved by using neutrals).