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The unofficial Munch text suggestion thread

#1

Let’s cut to the chase, the card text of Munch is not good.
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Already, people are starting to argue about what the text could mean. What the card actually does is steal life from an enemy minion equal to the number of Creep you control. However, if that minion would die from this effect, the extra damage is not dealt.

So, to summarize,

  • if you have more Creep than the minion has health, you gain life equal to the minion’s health
  • if you have less Creep than the minion has health, you gain Heath equal to the number of Creep you have.

I want to hear if you guys have any suggestions on how to improve the card text to better represent this effect.

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#2

like i said on the munch spoiler thread

Steal Health from an enemy minion for each friendly Shadow Creep or until it dies.

replacing the comma for an “or” would clear so munch up

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#3

That works for me. There isn’t really any shorter way to say it unless a keyword is created defining that effect.

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#4

Yeah that’s good. What happens when shadow creep == health is slightly ambiguous though.

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#5

I like the suggestion, but I’m gonna play the devil’s advocate here:

Say I’m a screen-licking Hearthstone player, who just came back from a game of netdek simulator 2016. I see that mah boi, symmetraismywaifu69, uploaded a sponsored video about a game called “Doolist.” After spamming kappas in the chat to tell him that he is wrong for trying to make a living streaming, I decide to check this “Doolist” game out. Between chugs of Mountain Dew, I bust open some new expansion packs, and build an Abyssian deck, because Lilith is a useless little bunny who’s only good for her sex appeal, and get into a game. Now my opponent plays some big yellow man with taunt, and I just happen to have no Creep and this card in my hand.

“Steal Health from an enemy minion for each friendly Shadow Creep or until it dies”

“Cool,” I think, my pea-size lemur brain kicking itself into high gear, “it says ‘or,’ so I get to choose whether I steal life until it dies or steal life equal to my shadow Doritos. I’ll just steal until it dies instead of actually being smart and considering balance.” I play the card. 0 damage is dealt. Back to hearthstone for me.

Sorry, I am very tired today.

My point is to make the card say:

“Steal Health from an enemy minion for each friendly Shadow Creep or until it dies (Whichever is lower)”

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#6

fair point. and that way CPG gets to keep its comma :snowchaser:

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#7

I have nothing to add other than this made me laugh

Carry on

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#8

Can I put this here just so we have numbers to back up our claims about the text being confusing? Maybe the silent majority thinks we’re stoopid

  • Munch’s card text was initially confusing
  • Munch’s card text was immediately clear

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I really like @oranos’s idea personally. Can’t think of anything better

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#9

i immediately knew what it meant, but i can see where the confusion came from and agree that it needs to be clearer to reduce misunderstandings and salt

“Steal Health from an enemy minion for each friendly Shadow Creep or until it dies (Whichever is lower)”

should be enough, especially since they felt skorn and krater also needed such clarification

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#10

“steal health from an enemy minion for each friendly Shadow Creep, but not more than it’s current health”

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#11

I thought it procced multiple times, like ‘steal health equal to the number of shadow creep until a minion dies’ as I can you steal that much health, then you steal that much again, rinse and repeat until minion is dead. Ie 5 shadowcreep and targeting a 6hp minion would steal 10hp.

Mostly my little brain was confused

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#12

That’s what I thought too.

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#13

I would just be fully explicit: “Steal health from an enemy minion up to the number of friendly shadow creeps. You cannot steal more health than the health of the target.”

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#14

Ladies and gentlemen we have a contender!

I’m surprised so many people are fine with the card text, everyone I talked to on release thought it was way too confusing.

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#15

Glad you like it!

About the original card text: besides being confusing, it also feels sloppy (no offense meant). I don’t think it gives a good image of the game…

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#16

“Steal Health from an enemy minion equal to the number of friendly Shadow Creep but no more than the minion’s health.”

No ambiguity (a number of 1 point pings or just one chunk of damage ?) , no awkward ‘until it dies’, only one sentence.

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#17

Shorter than mine, I like it!

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#18

I also obviously approve

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#19

Ah I see you’re a Scott Falco subscriber as well.

xD

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#20

this one lacks the “friendly creep” part

or did you approve because it was similar to yours?

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