Miguel's Abyss deck and discussion space

[specialsheep]

Arras prophet looks a little weak, I don’t think you’ll draw plumes reliably. I would play Aethermaster for the value of the replaces and then slip Kron in there. Maybe I just like Kron too much but I would play Aethermaster over Arras Prophet with or without him.

I might go further and exchange Gloomchaser for primus fist, vellumscry for Spelljammer, priestess for Bloodbound Mentor and drop inkling surge and maybe drop one deathfire crescendo.

To my surprise I also found punish to be generally a slightly better choice than sacrifice In S rank at the moment so you might be interested to try that.

[miguelosz]

Variax for Revenant and Stygian for Moonrider would be my main suggestions. Also Horrific Visage is kinda weird but if it works for you I won’t judge you

[miguelosz]

Oh, and Horn of the Forsaken but no Grimwar?

[miguelosz]

I agree that without a lot of spells, Shadowdancer is probably better for Arcaswarm than Firestarter (most spells also cycle in my list so things can get really brutal sometimes when you play 4 a turn).

[alplod]

Arras prophet

I just love these little girls.

Overall, I don’t feel like increasing replace value. Kron is definitely good, but, Araras provides healing and free spell procs, which won me sone matches in past.

vellumscry for Spelljammer

That is a thing I can agree with. I just want more spells with Arcanyst synergy.

Gloomchaser for primus fist

Don’t misjudge midrange SWARM for aggro.

To my surprise I also found punish to be generally a slightly better choice than sacrifice In S rank at the moment so you might be interested to try that

I would. Thanks.

Variax for Revenant and Stygian for Moonrider would be my main suggestions

Sure, moonrider! I would try that. Nor sure about Rev though. Strangely, it feels too slow.

Also Horrific Visage is kinda weird

I loved this card after my Swarmzig deck. It never came to my hand, but I’m willing to test it more.

Horn of the Forsaken but no Grimwar?

True. I counted my swarm producers vs swarm cashers and decided to have one more swarm producer.

[alplod]

Speaking about Wanderer Swarm, I have a pretty good record of it in Diamond (14-2), with about half of the matches finished even without playing Wanderer himself!

Just another proof that 1-ofs are not big enough disadvantage to advocate +1/+1 buff to everything. Wanderer decks are stupidly powerful.

[miguelosz]

Wow, nice! I didn’t have such a huge wr when testing my “main” version of the deck, but then again meta was very different then. One-ofs definitely don’t hinder the deck a lot.

[alplod]

Maybe it’s because the end of the season.

[project2el]

I’ll definitely give it a try. Right now I’m having lot of fun with regular hyperswarm

[mmf]

Hey @miguelosz, got any damage reduction theme’d decks? Looking at Abyssian, they have some pretty interesting cards to take advantage of it and I was wondering if you had played around with it yourself.

Here’re some of the cards that I think would work for a deck like that:

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[bepoest]

Zen’Rui, very clever. Gibbet is also fun in this situation, you can get them to breed and multiply (very gimmicky though). You could also squeeze more out of Purgatos in this environment.

[miguelosz]

I do, actually a few of them! All totally unplayable, which is why I haven’t featured any of them yet. I can post my most recent build here.

[alplod]

My Swarmzig deck uses part of your package, btw:

Miguel's Abyss deck and discussion space

Just want to put it here. Nice meme. I’m proud of myself. It’s standart as you may see. [deckLandscapeAbyssian%20(17)] Though I think it’s pretty obvious what I’m doing here, I want to say a few words. Scarzig activation combo may involve teleportation/buffing its attack/reducing enemy attack. The fun part is that many of these cards actually support swarm in some way, so you may instead try swarm combo when everything else fails. I never used Visage before and must say that this is quite go…

Can’t say that it works perfectly, but It’s somewhat playable. Horrific visage is an awesome stall tool, almost as good as Concealing Shroud.

[miguelosz]

So this is the most recent version of my “Attack Lowerin’ Lili”. Everything kind of synergies with everything, for example Chakram equipped can give you tons of heal (Kelaino/Purgatos), tons of burn (Blood Siren/Skullprophet) or tons of Gibbets. Zen’rui + Siren is the ultimate combo of stealing your opponent’s stuff. Also Visage + Nightsorrow destroys any single minion with 6 attack or below. Sadly, the combos are not strong enough to win you games even if you get some really dank stuff done often. There is an obvious lack of finishers: I hadn’t considered Rev, but it’s a shame it can’t really be played in synergy with your other stuff (besides Chakram once in 20 games) since it will just get removed right away. I think I went 1-4 with this deck 1-2 months ago.

[cloudfrog]

chakram doesn’t synergize with gibbet, sadly
still, this is a pretty smart deck for getting maximum gibbet value!

[miguelosz]

It doesn’t? :o My whole life is a lie!

[cloudfrog]

yeaaah i kinda feel bad I’m not creative enough to make gibbet work.

[alplod]

Blood siren is actually pretty OK. I’d use it in place of seemingly useless sentinel.

You’re discussing her, but your deck lacks it.

[miguelosz]

Oh right It was supposed to be there (it was in some earlier versions too). I think -2 Inkling -1 Mindlathe would be the way to go.

[bepoest]

Gibbet can be pretty funny but has two drawbacks: First its weak body can be easily removed before he acts, second is you only get 3 of them in a deck, and sometimes they can’t be found in a match.

This being said, the dank combos include:

• Repulsor Beast, Daemonic Lure, Nethermeld, Syvrel the Exile to control who gets to attack who.
• Blood Siren, Horrific Visage, Void Steal to reduce enemy attack value and breed Gibbets.
• Deathfire Crescendo, Sun Elemental, Mirkblood Devourer, Songweaver, Azure Horn Shaman, Bastion (lol) to increase Gibbet health.

I haven’t managed to get the full retard Gibbet deck to work. (not even talking about Plasma Storm and opponent’s rain on our parade). Although the Gibbet+positioning tools subset is an OK addition to a control deck.