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Does Magmar need a nerf?

I’m guessing the wink face implies sarcasm in which case yes ragebinder has golem synergy with the bond but it’s not even that good. Plus lavaslasher does see a lot of play but no because it’s a golem but because it’s just a good card. Also buildmar is crap. Proof? Just match into a ladder match in diamond or above 20 times and tell me how many buildmars you see.

Welcome to the club :stuck_out_tongue:

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Ragebinder and lavaslasher stats and abilities are top tier even without the golem discount. They’re magmar staples alongside mankator, regardless whether the magmar player is using golems or not. That in itself is a problem, although when compared to the other OP stuff, a relatively small problem.

Anyways, the biggest problems are rippers, decispikes, and the overtuned removal package.

I see more buildmars on Ladder in Diamond than Abyssian as a faction
I see more Ragnora than all Abyssian + Vanar Generals combined
I see more Wanderer (Rag) from players with no Ribbons (sad)
I see more netdecks on Ladder than creative decks
I see unskilled Magmar players on ladder if I even deal a decent amount of damage to them (deathsadvocate beat me easily yesterday with superior positioning playing Starhorn, and no Decispikes, while I dealt about 7 damage to his general with Burn Reva, that should tell you how good Magmar is as a faction, or maybe I’m just bad with every non-mech deck :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Diamond is pretty bland when every fight is Wanderer

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I wouldn’t call the golem tribe a discount considering magmar has no golem synergy but aside from that lavaslasher’s stats are actually bad without the effect. Obviously the effect does bridge that gap. And ragebinder is definetely top teir but other factions have high value minions like him.

I’ve played hundreds of games and have literally played against 0 buildmars
I face vanar on ladder rarely due to them being nerfed out of the meta
Most of your points in this post are for comedic purposes not actual arguments
And no, deathsadvocate beating you isn’t an example of how broken magmar is but of his skill as a player. You even admitted he beat you with superior positioning.
And yes wanderer rag is annoying to play against a lot but it’s not te end of the world
And I still can’t get over the fact that you people think buildmar is good

Superior positioning
Decispikes Starhorn

Pick one

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Also just general information if you look at the replays section you’ll see that magmar is actually pretty underplayed.

Only four people in diamond

Only two in S-rank

In fact from the look of it Songhai and Vanar are really popular right now. With a sprinkling of vetruvian.

:thinking:

Not only is that a terrible argument but that’s also not how the replay section works.

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Say the people who’s arguments are 70% sarcasm. (Not targeting jay specifically).

Please I’d love an explanation then.

It was kind of for comedic purposes, because I don’t really feel like arguing and pissing random people off.
And yeah Wanderer Rag isn’t the end of the world, but every time I fight it, and see it’s someone with 0 ribbons, or only 2-3 Magmar ribbons, its pretty obvious they netdecked the best deck and have no skill or don’t care about learning how to play :frowning:

Buildmar is weak…If you have Plasma Storm and Natural Selection, I wonder what faction has both of those cards, and can use rebuke to kill Hulk and Gigaloth :thinking:

Your argument that no one plays Magmar has nothing to do with how powerful it actually is, but how bored people are of playing current meta. Also count how many of those were Wanderer Ragnora, and how many of those rag players had 0 Ribbons, and you can easily see the correlation. Just because something is strong (Vanar Walls for instance) doesn’t mean it sees lots of play. 60% of Karas are Wanderer Kara, Songhai is Wanderer Reva.

I guess I accidentally started attacking the wrong thing in your thread, which is about Magmar, but some of these points apply to the faction as a whole.

By golem discount, I was referring to golem metallurgist’s 1 mana discount.

Lavaslasher’s stats are top notch. There aren’t a lot of 5 mana minions with 7 health.

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Face the facts man…
Magmar is broken by definition.

You want the whole community to come forth and explain?

Dude, do your homework really.
Magmsr use to be a beginners class, but they took the beginner into another level and made magmar into “all in 18 wheeler with cannons and spikes all over”.

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my statement about how much it’s played wasn’t an argument, but, as it said in that post just some information for you guys ot take in mind. And why do you keep mentioning the number of ribbons wanderer playeres have? That doesn’t effect the argument.

I was comparing it to brightmoss golem which is the benchmark for 5 mana minion stats without abilities.

It does, if i am a 10+ ribbons vanar player it means that if you lose to me it has to do with skill and knowing the faction.

If you create a deck out of no where with a faction you are not familier with you should expect a hard time.

Last time i checked ragnora egg/wanderer stood at 80% winrate for a complete beginner players.
I’m talking about people who misplay by the pounds.

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CPG’s definition is, “Resilient and large like nature itself, the Magmar Aspects are a powerful force to reckon with. Their Grow and Rebirth abilities require foes to invest heavily into tearing down their units, lest they get torn themselves.” Which if you compare it to their other definitions of the other factions, sounds fine.

Btw again another example of a bad argument because instead of addressing something you make a large statement without any substantiation.

Last time you checked? Checked where? Where did these statistics show up? You’re point makes sense but this sentence is just stupid.

I see you didn’t read the whole thread you created.
I just don’t feel like repeating things.

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Hold on please…

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