Death, I’m thinking about trying out other factions that have midrange archetypes since midrange in songhai at the moment is too weak. Do you have any suggestions excluding Magmar? Whatever deck you suggest doesn’t necessarily have to be midrange though, but something that is strong and focuses on minions and positioning.
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The majority of my decks tend to fit that bill as that is my style and also what I want duelyst to be so I try to promote that. Take a gander, or feel free to ask for someone specific.
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I think the most interesting deck I have seen is a tempo lyonar with immo, oath, BTA, etc.
Although it looks fun, I am unsure about how much better it would do in comparison to Midrange Kaleos.
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I think you may like playing Titan.
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Maybe, but the deck is definitely worse than midrange hai as the meta is very fast.
Maybe Wanderer Brome would be somewhat similar and more viable, but I dislike wanderer.
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Here is my current work in progress for tempo oriented lyonar:
I will be filling in lyonar stuff soonish.
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Do you think your tempo lyonar list is equal to a healyonar list? It seems like healyonar is harder to pilot but very strong.
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Still testing, as for healnar I have never really gotten the hang of it my self. Its a surprisingly advanced deck that plays pretty different then most decks, and I find my self always prefering argeon/brome sometimes with more or less heal focus. I would recommend chatting up powinthekissa or keyrin for advice on it.
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Updated the Lyonar section with a bunch of stuff. May still be a few more to come.
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Love your Owlbeast Punch deck. I use more Arcanysts though, but your choice seems more original. I’d definitely try that!
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Thanks, it’s very all in on its combo, I am rather fond of it. I still need to try out Lifestream, but I can’t find anything I want to cut.
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I see you don’t use point removal though. I try to use Martyrdom to counter Wanderer himself. What do you do with him?
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Win before six mana. The insane amount of cycles make this surprisingly feasible. Wanderer is also the least likely deck to be able to stop your combo.
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Speaking of Black Magic deck.
When you play it, do you waste cycling spells in order to find owlbeast as fast as possible, or do you tend to discount and save them, and look for Owlbeast via other means?
I was trying to save them, but more often than not I find Owl too late…
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Hey DA, would you mind attempting to make a modern meta Keeper Vaath? Because seeing a single Vaath deck is kinda underwhelming, when you see the 1 Vaath deck and then look at all the other decks for other Mag generals(especially Starhorn).
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Digging for your combo is the highest priority, you don’t save cycles (other then an aegis for owl/pris), but you often don’t play abjucator right away. The whole deck is either combo, cycle, or control so you always dig into more cycle or what your looking for. The airdrop effect is almost never used it’s almost purely for the cycle, allthough sometimes it’s effect is handy.
@alexx55 Every deck I make for Vaath ends up looking very similar to the one I have for him or being better suited for another general. If it has a silly gimmick Starhorn is better for consistency, if it does not have room for earth, nat select, and plasma it tends to be better suited for Rag. Vaath just has so many staples there is little room to mess with his decks.
Keeper decks are having a bad time in the meta at the moment, they can struggle vs aggro, they have a tough time out valuing fault or wanderer, and the excess of transform based removal is really hard on them. The only semi modern keeper list I have is Ragnora, allthough I can certainly do my best to update them and fine tune a Vaath variant if you like. It may take a few days though, or I could just whip up some quick rough drafts if you prefer.
Apex still works decently for Vaath allthough Starhorn is some fierce competition. And a more dedicated golem list can also work but is likely more suited for Rag.
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Yeah, it may be kind of a problem.
Im in no hurry, was just asking if I could see one someday, and I am happy to hear that I will.
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Here are my rough drafts:
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Just a bump 
I think this thread could use one.
Brewing anything new, deaths?
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A few things here and there, should all be in the changelogs. Mostly just been cleaning the thread up, adjusting ratings, and making sure everything is in a final draft spot.
I also have not been playing nearly as much lately due to the combination of wanderer and burn, so that has slowed down content and discourages me from tinkering with things that cant handle those.
Thanks for the bump.
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