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DeathsAdvocate's Budget Guide: Trials of Mythron Update

Thanks for the lists!

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Updated the wiki!

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Hey, thanks so much for the budget decks! Been enjoying Swarm Lilithe and Obelysk. Do you have any possible decks for Kara Winterblade? I got the legendary skin for her from a loot chest and would love to make use of it.

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Correction* short ranged teleports like Kals bbs are super cool position based board focused tools.

Unlimited range teleports with no counterplay make positioning irrelevant and are ignoring the board. I just lumped them together for my short summary of the faction.

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I will see what I can do. Right off the top of my head Luminous is amazing and by its self is enough to make Kara viable on a budget.

Edit: @themiller


http://www.bagoum.com/deckbuilder#MTo1MjcsMzo1MTAsMzoyMDMyNCwzOjIwMTQ5LDM6NTEyLDM6NTUwLDM6NTA1LDM6MjAxMzUsMzo1MTksMzoyMDE2NSwzOjIwMzkxLDM6MzAwNDAsMzo1MzIsMzoyMDI3Ng==

Untested rough draft loosely based on one of my kara decks. It should be sollid, curve is a touch low but between cryo, hunt, and chaser card advantage should be a non issue. Anyways pretty straightforward deck banking on vespyr synergy and spam. Elemental and Bear love bonechill barrier in particular. Animus plate can make any vespyrs you have out go crazy real quick.

The deck also has a fair amount of wall focus thanks to Karas natural synergy with them thanks to her BBs, Luminous charge, if unanswered, is a staggering 15 damage. And should your opponents manage to escape the clutches of the walls they can instead be transformed with your aspects to chase people down.

See Heavy Metal Kara in my master thread for the full version.

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This is a great post for new players, like myself. Is there a more in-depth version of your checklist?

Maybe more info on archetypes, staples, bad match ups and tech. Not sure what tech means. Thanks for the guide.

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Its basically a card (or cards) you add into your deck to make certain match ups to be more in your favour or to help against match ups that you seem to be playing against more often than usual. A quick example would be Night Watcher, as it helps to shut down Obelysk Vetruvian decks because the Wind Dervishes that get summoned from Obelysks get exhausted and can’t move or attack, so usually they end up doing nothing.

Night Watcher Card

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Staples tend to be either included in the budget list or are in the couple small upgrade suggestions I made for each deck. I did have a longer deck building write up under the “How to build a deck” section. As for more detailed write ups and match ups I would recommend checking decks on my master thread. Things can only get so complex on a budget to.

If you have any specific questions regarding a deck feel free to ask.

@gsvalhalla did a great job explaining it and was spot on, although I was using it in a slightly broader manner. Basically tech is anything that is not a staple or directly related to your decks gameplan, the most common forms are dispel and healing, and the less common forms are with things like nightwatcher, artifact destruction, or just anything in particular that gives you an advantage agaisnt what is troubling you.

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Gotcha. That is something that I’ve been doing. Just didn’t know the term. The stuff about mana curve and planning out your progression was very helpful. I often find myself shortsighted or just reacting to my opponent. Thank you @deathsadvocate and @gsvalhalla

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Bump.

Please don’t lock my thread :frowning:

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Updated the the budget video.

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Bump.

Please don’t lock my thread.

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Not sure if I will be making more updates, allthough there is likely room for some fine tuning, as it was a little more rushed then usual. But giving it at least one more bump so it does not lock yet.

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I just noticed you are not running Azurite Lion in your Lyonar List, I think you need a pretty good reason to not run that card. With Roar, Afterblaze, Primus Fist and even Bond to make great use of the celerity it seems like a huge mistake to not be running Lyonar’s best 2 drop.

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Lion is pretty amazing and is a staple in most of my Argeon lists. But I tend to leave it out of Bond lists due to having so many ways to win already. I tend to prefer healing/draw utility type minions here. Normally I will pick Lion over Windblade, but because it is an afterblaze list blade is more valuable to me.

But you are certainly not wrong, Lion is a very strong Argeon staple that is complimented well by the decks various buffs, and certainly would not be a bad pick. Also I am not running primus as this is bond not tempo. With how it’s set up in theory you have much better targets and would not want to spend a buff on Lion and thus I skipped him.

What would you cut for him? We already are fully saturated on two drops and I would be very nervous to cut healing or wisp, and cus of afterblaze I prefer Windblade.

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Hm, not sure why I added Primus to that list.

I get if it’s preference to run the healy boys, I personally think the deck doesn’t have enough long game to justify cleric (even though I think that card is overtuned and needs a small nerf).

Also, I think it’s situational whether Afterblaze is better on Adept or Lion anyway, would I pay a card to reactivate a minion? sure, sometimes, Inner Focus exists and is very useful. Lion in range can win you the game on 6 mana (Lion into Afterblaze + Bond is a bit optimistic sure, but an 11/7 celerity is a huge payoff).

Alternatively, Tiger ain’t what it used to be.

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Yea tiger is pretty bad now but without it the deck completely lacks out of hand damage/spot control. It would be one of the first to go once the deck had stuff like holy and the like but I don’t think it can be cut right now, plus it’s also good with afterblaze in the lategame, and is a free Argeon classic.

Hum cleric could possibly be swapped for lion in the budget deck, in the main variant he is an important tool for holy immolation, plus tile is so useful for overwriting globes, other tiles, and healing your self or a bond target, but he certainly does less work in the budget version. Guess it really comes down to how much aggro there is.

Not sure if I will leave cleric in as the default and mention lion as a powerful alternative if aggro/burn is not giving you trouble, or vice versa, but I will do something.

Thanks for the feedback.

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