Big Arcanysts: Trying to build Antimeta Control Deck

[alplod]

it is impossible to make a bad Abyssian deck, and especially one with Desolator in it

Well, challenge accepted!

In truth, though, anything but Maehv is pretty undepowered now.

[phoenixtoasches]

it is impossible to make a bad Abyssian deck

it is impossible to make a bad Abyssian deck

it is impossible to make a bad Abyssian deck

Dying wish/ aggro mahev

[deckLandscapeAbyssian] The ultimate dying wish/aggro maehv but a bit unconventional All the aggro and the dying wish isn,t towars your enemy but towards yourself The key with this deck is to target your own face with any dmg you have…don,t waste your recources on the enemys face unless you can hit yourself at the same time Some heretics like @epicflygon call this 16 years old edgy maehv…don,t be fooled by them

Dark Memes XII: Arch Memesis (aka an epic journey in the realms of Playability)

Arch Memesis [image] Memesis was a young memelord. Where he was born, the story does not tell, yet already as a young fella he travelled to the edges of Playability, a vast kingdom at the center of the world map. Memesis was a master among his race in a battle sports called Frostfire, and wanted to test his skills against the warlords of Playability. But to do this, he would need a crew. Not just any crew, but highly tailored to suit his Memesis needs. Memesis sets out to battle, challenging e…

…I just gotta let that sink in for a second.

[buyingcoats]

Isn’t this a worse version of normal arc lilithe

[miguelosz]

Not strictly, it’s a different version. I also call this decktype the “Anti-Arcanyst Arcanyst Lilithe”. During the dreaded Ancient Bonds meta, this decktype was more successful than the “normie” Arcanyst Lili

[alplod]

It’s not. Arcanyst Lilithe sucks against burn and solo decks. This one doesn’t.

[deathsadvocate]

I like the idea of non Spell spam arcanyst, that is pretty neat, although I am skeptical as Deathknells favorite trick is trinities bond.

I also love control decks and loath burn, and love finding good spots for magesworn, there may be some potential here, that being said could certainly use some refining.

So for a good point of reference my dedicated control doom list (Still work in progress) :

http://www.bagoum.com/deckbuilder#MTozMjMsMzoxMTA4NCwzOjIwMDQ5LDM6MzYzLDM6MTA5ODEsMzoyMDI0MywzOjMwMDE0LDM6MTEwMzksMzoyMDEzMSwzOjM0MSwzOjEwOTk1LDM6MjAyMjcsMzoxMTA5MywzOjIwMjY0

And my first draft of Big Arcanyst:

http://www.bagoum.com/deckbuilder#MTozMDEsMzoyMDA1OSwzOjEwOTkzLDM6MTExNTIsMzoxMDMwMiwzOjIwMDU3LDM6MTAzMDEsMzoyMDEzMSwzOjEwMzA2LDM6MzM2LDM6MTEwOTQsMzoxMTEwNywzOjIwMjI3LDM6MzM4

But I am skeptical that it is better then the standard build, of which I think does fine vs burn/solo since I pack a good amount of healing and ping.

[alplod]

But I am skeptical that it is better then the standard build, of which I think does fine vs burn/solo since I pack a good amount of healing and ping.

Dunno, I somehow just lose against Reva’s or Ragnora’s BBS most of the time. Magesworn helps with that.

[anjosustrakr]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

[miguelosz]

Btw I like the use of Crawler and other more controlly cards in this I’ve also tested Eclipse with the combo, which was really fun to watch after a second Magesworn comes from Knell and the enemy has no idea what to do with them. Obviously too slow to be viable and too vulnerable to Plasma Storm though. On the other hand, Aethermaster is really good in this deck to find the matchup-specific control cards you need.

[miguelosz]

I’m almost getting sentimental as the ramp Magesworn Knell lockdown combo was my “secret breed” for at least half a year. But, it’s time for it to see the light of day good job with improving the deck!

[alplod]

Sorry, I didn’t know it was your secret

[miguelosz]

Haha, no problem I haven’t played with it for a long time

[mothergreen]

I lost to that. I thought you got the Nightshrouds off of Conjurer. I like your list. Wouldnt be Nightwatcher a semi-counter for atleast Khanum-Ka?

[alplod]

The space is tight. Inserting Watcher means giving up on some Arcanysts, which makes DeathKnell less impactful.

However, lightbender and Breath are very likely to screw Zirix’ plans for several turns while you are looking for ChainKnell.

[turborafx]

Since you’re going control, shouldn’t you run Cass? Also, have you thought about Gate to the Undervault as the late-game plan? since you’r gonna control anyway?

[alplod]

As my main control tool is Magesworn, it’s natural to opt for Knell as a lategame option.

Other than for lulz I’d prefer Doom for full control suite. Gate is easily answered, unlike Doom.

As for Cass, her go to removal - punish - is 2 mana, thus being countersynergetic to Magesworn. Also, Cass’ control is dependant on creep, which makes inserting unrelated control options (like crawler and BTA) hard. And also, Cass can’t reliably ramp.

[renedave]

what are your thoughts on including Variax in the deck?
she should work with Magesworn though i can see DK is your preferred endgame

[loliconartist]

Can confirm d knell op op owo

[alplod]

Well, I never thought of Variax here, and I actually like an idea.

The problem is I don’t know where to fit him.

I guess I’ll make a spin off super greedy version with 2of Variax AND 3of Knell and see how it goes.

I can’t get rid of Knells here since it’s a stabilizing engine with shroud.

BTW, @miguelosz, I now play Aethermaster instead of healing mystic, and -1 Deso +1 Breath. Aggro became a bit more problematic, but the ability to find the exact answer you want is brilliant.

[miguelosz]

Ok, great! Those replaces can really save the day in a control deck