Tier List/ Current Meta?

[soulerbeem]

Hello all! I’m a returning player (went on hiatus after ancient bonds, was too lazy to farm coins to get all the cards w/o crafting) and I’m somewhat of a filthy tierlister. This latest expansions seems dope as hell and I’m thinking about jumping back in, but I noticed that all of the previous tier lists are dead.
Can anyone direct me to an updated tier list, and if not, could we discuss some of the best decks in the meta and some of their builds?
Eager to see how everything’s changed

[cloudfrog]

none of the popular dudes have made one yet.
IV Vath is the no-contest tier 0 right now though.
Vanarcanyst(Bloodbound mentor), Mantra shidai(OTK deck), Zirix/Cyphron Thunderhorn(+kproj, lost in desert) are the other popular decks right now.

[soulerbeem]

Would you happen to happen any cool decks for these that i could play around with? Thanks man!

[buddybluebomber]

Stick every card you think would be good with Vaath and you’ll make an S tier deck I promise. It’s that easy.

[cloudfrog]

https://forums.duelyst.com/t/the-cat-lovers-vetruvian-happy-thread/
for the vetruvian ones.

Church of the Mankantor (State of Magmar thread 10-21-2017) Ragnora the Relentless

[image] Here is the latest card. At first glance i was disappointed because i thought that Magmar would be the one faction whose mech wouldn’t have poor stats but they found away around that by making it more of a starhorn card. After I got the ridiculous mill fantasy out of my head the first thing I thought about was Mandrake and swarming with replicants and small mechs mixed in with deck decimus spikes.

for the magmar ones.

[cloudfrog]

crap right: self plug

S-Rank Forum Golem Deck: Legend of the Salty Silver Scrub (Someone kill this thread. also add 3 BOA 'cause position vet is meta now)

Previously on Avatar, “Hi guys. I don’t believe it. I made it. I made it to diamond. I feel like it still has more potential tho. Suggestions Appreciated.” [image] EDIT(tho tbh I just rewrote 90% of this whole thing): Got to S-Rank with this deck. [image] These are trying times for Swarm Decks. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. The trick is to play their game: Hybrid it with a control suite. [image] Sure, they have rebuke. But you have 2 giant EMPs and 4-5 swarms to drop. 4-5 = -1 4>3…

[soulerbeem]

Stick every card you think would be good with Vaath and you’ll make an S tier deck I promise. It’s that easy.

serpenti intensifies

[soulerbeem]

Thanks so much man!!! You’re awesome

[epicflygon]

Hey! I heard of a cool thread for all your deck list needs! Immortal Vanguard - Deck Bazaar

[nwardezir]

Yay, awesome, we have another Saurian Vaath joining the bandwagon.
Awesome.
*sigh*

[cloudfrog]

meh, what’s another saurian vaath player. At least there’s one returning player who’ll have fun. *insert bike cuck meme here

@soulerbeem so yeah, that’s pretty much the sentiment with saurian vaath. I won’t say anything about it other than there’s ton of discussion in the forums and you can find things out for yourself on that matter.

[nwardezir]

meh, what’s another saurian vaath player. At least there’s one returning player who’ll have fun.

“fun”  

[alexx55]

I feel like i am the only magmar player who doesnt use saurian

[cloudfrog]

@nwardezir insert bike cuck’s bike thief meme
@alexx55 naaaah

[lel7]

Decklists of players in recent Duelyst Melee tournaments

[Album] Duelyst Melee 12/2

[Album] Duelyst Melee 11/25/17

[Album] Duelyst Melee 11/19

Link to replay of said tournaments

F8 HotS

[pfcmickey]

The meta right now is basically finality vaath and who can deal with it.

There are also other good decks that aim to lose to vaath but win against everything else and hope it’s enough to climb (in my experience it isn’t)

Of course it all depends on what rank you’re in. In silver/gold you’re most likely to face other stuff because vaath already climbed to higher ranks. I, for instance, was running a counter to vaath in gold but couldn’t climb because I was late for the season and didn’t face a lot of vaaths. Now I’m climbing with another deck and saving it for worse parts of the ladder.

Please don’t play vaath. There’s more than enough of them

[nwardezir]

insert bike cuck’s bike thief meme

There was a thread for that iirc

[thematsjo]

Diamond is completely dominated by ControlMar and BangleHai because BangleHai beats ControlMar and ControlMar beats everything else (hyperbole).

I’m biased in favor of everything with an asterisk (*) behind it. Based on a Diamond Lyonar’s perspective:

Excellent

• Magmar: Control “Finality” Vaath [Hard Counter: BangleHai]

Strong

• Songhai: Artifact “BangleHai” Reva
• Songhai: Spell “Mantra” Shidai [Hard Counter: Finality]
• Songhai: Spell “SpellHai” Shidai
• Vanar: Arcanyst Tribal “ArcaNar” Faie
• Vanar: Wall Tribal “Flawless” Faie [Hard Counter: Finality]

Good

• Abyssian: Aggro Cassyva
• Abyssian: Control “Unbirth Combo” Cassyva
• Abyssian: Midrange “Echo” Maehv
• Lyonar: Tempo “Lizard Slayer” Argeon
• Lyonar: Zoo “Surge Swarm” Brome
• Magmar: Aggro “MillHorn/MechHorn” Starhorn
• Vanar: Control “Fissure” Faie
• Vetruvian: Aggro Zirix

Mediocre

• Lyonar: Midrange Titan
• Lyonar: Midrange “Zeal Bond” Brome *
• Magmar: Tribal Egg “EggMar” Ragnora/Starhorn
• Magmar: Midrange “BigMar” Vaath
• Magmar: Solo Vaath
• Songhai: Aggro “MoveHai” Kaleos
• Songhai: Tribal Arcanyst “ArcaHai” Shidai
• Vanar: Vespyr Tribal “Wintertide” Kara *
• Vetruvian: Artifact “Maelstrom Combo” Sajj *
• Vetruvian: Control “Fault” Zirix
• Vetruvian: Control “Sabotage” Ciphyron

Failing

• Abyssian: Zoo “Chakram Swarm” Lilithe
• Abyssian: Control “Creep” Cassyva
• Lyonar: Tempo “Healyonar” Zir’An *
• Lyonar: Tempo “Tempo Argeon” Argeon
• Vanar: Tempo “Stunsteel” Ilena
• Vetruvian: Golem Tribal Ciphyron/Sajj/Zirix
• Vetruvian: Obelysk Tribal Zirix

I’m not great at parsing the entire meta so I just based it on my own heavily Lyonar-centric experience in Gold and Diamond (Rank 2) previous month.

[nwardezir]

That moment when you realize you mostly play “falling” decks

[phoenixtoasches]

Wait how is finality a hard counter to mantra if mantra has no minions making finalities removal dead draws?