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I have to say, modern dying wish abyssian decks seem OP. Probably high tier.

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Most likely. It’s weird how (for me at least) suddenly my fav archetype seems a lot less fun now that it’s among the more viable ones :stuck_out_tongue: so don’t expect a lot of DW decks from me in the near future

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The story of my life.

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Goddamn hipsters

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I just wanna be a special snowflake.

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MaxiCreep

With the unrotation, I guess it’s time to post this deck as I don’t quite dare to play it in my current rank of Gold 6 :stuck_out_tongue:

Long story short:

  1. Play Manaforger, Sphere (nirfed rip) and Lures in the early game and just generally swag around doing nothing sensible
  2. Play Nova
  3. During steps 1 and 2, hard replace for Painful Pluck and Alcuins. Once you have 3+ creep, you can start playing Yielding Depths and Munch.
  4. ALWAYS have at least 1 Pluck in hand at the end of your turn. This is the most important step.
  5. Once you get to 4-6 mana, start Plucking and Alcuining your Plucks back to your hand.
  6. At 7-8 mana, play your first Obliterate. By this point, you either have lost or have Plucked 2-4 times.
  7. In two turns, you can build enough creep for a second Obliterate to win the game for good.

WR 7-3 (70%) in Unranked (rip). If you get to rank 10/5/s, feel free to meme with this beauty! 20+ AoE damage ez gud :stuck_out_tongue:

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Speaking of Relic Lilithe, do you plan to add Arcane Devourer, @miguelosz ? I have zero of them, are they worth it?

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Sure, they’d probably work real nicely in place of DFS to give the combo more consistency :slight_smile: But I wouldn’t call them strictly necessary for this deck, as it can win just fine even without completely relying on the Relics

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I’m trying hard to find a good way to creep.

Since i don’t own fugitive, i tried to focused on an aggro oriented list. I feel like it could be really consistant but i don’t know what to replace to optimise it.
I’m a gold player with questionable hand management and positionning so if you get to use the list feel free to give your feelings about it.

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Sorry, but I couldn’t help myself…

Here’s my 5 cents:

Tbh unless you have 3x Fugitive, Sphere of Darkness is still better than Pluck even after the nerf because it cycles. Abjudicator eats your hand real fast so you probably need more draw? With a list like this, it would be good to have at least 3 cards in hand at all times. Spelljammer can backfire real bad though when you feed other aggro decks more cards, so be aware of that. Punish is usually a 3x, Grasp is a bit more situational so I’d drop that to two instead.

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How’s Twilight Sorcerer working out?

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It’s a way to have more pseudo-Alcuins, so I used it mainly when I didn’t draw at least two Fugitives before 6-7 mana. It’s ok for that purpose but I wouldn’t necessarily craft it if you’re not swimming in spirit :stuck_out_tongue:

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I’d say it’s not aggro enough. @deathsadvocate had a very good list pre rotation, here it is:


Reap, under Cass tab.

May need a bit of tuning rn, but may give you a decent idea what should be going on in aggro Creep.

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That’s indeed way more streamlined. I really get the “minion-light” approach though that @moonkey seems to be going for too, stuff like Abyssal Juggernaut gets removed real fast in the current meta. Maybe something between these two lists could be good.

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I will try to adapt the list with your comments !
I thought that sphere was really under pluck now, but i guess i may have overreact with the nerf. I will give it a try even if 2 mana seems really expensive for 1 creep.

As for @deathsadvocate aggro list i will try to see if i can incluse some ideas but as @miguelosz said i really want to be “minion-light”. Back in the days (pre rotation) i was playing a pure one man army Cassyva for meme purpose and that was pretty damn fun. I want a list that i could play competitively, so i’m including minions

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You’re of course right, it is damn expensive now. But, it’s also a targeted ping that cycles. For Pluck to pay its worth in mana you need to play at least two, and then you need to make up for that lost card advantage somehow. One other option is also to run some tech like Bloodtear in their place, your creep generation is not really relying on either of the two cards.

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Been testing Spriggin for a couple of days. I can’t believe how bad the card is still after buffing it for +2/+2 :'D

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I think the only valid play is when you wipe the enemy Spriggin Kins with a pre-positioned Thunderhorn. That’s very corner case to say the least.
Someday it’ll be a fine combo piece, hopefully.

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Yes that’s what I was trying. With full-swag combos (Furor Chakram and Komodo Hunter). I did manage to get one Thunderhorn into Komodo Hunter though which felt very satisfying.

It’s such a shame the opponent gets to activate their cute derps from Spriggin before you can. I mean the card now literally has better stats than Stormmetal Golem, and it’s still complete garbage.

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