Kara Buffspyr R&D!

[thematsjo]

So, Vespyr are pretty cool.

I want to play Vespyrs, beef 'em up and punch things e x t r a hard, in Diamond/Gold! The deck is pretty straightforward, what would you do to optimize it while keeping its approach more or less intact? Polarity is tech for Obelysks and some high-Health minions btw.

[alplod]

I guess, we have no Vanar pros left, except for, maybe, @deathsadvocate…

[deathsadvocate]

Some quick critiques on your list. I am not a fan of Jammer outside of aggro lists, particularly when you have such cool card advantage options for vespyrs like chaser, cryogen, and endless hunt.

I do not think Myriad is much good at all, but other then that you are certainly building in the right direction.

I have a few solid Kara Vespyr lists for you to use or take inspiration from:

DeathsAdvocate's Master Thread: Eternal Trials of Mythron

Heavy Metal : Vespyrs Control/Vespyr Cryonic Potential. Highly Competitive

Summary

http://www.bagoum.com/deckbuilder#MTo1MjcsMzo1MTAsMzoyMDMyNCwzOjIwMTQ5LDM6NTEyLDM6NTA1LDM6MjAxNDcsMzo1MTksMzoyMDE2NSwzOjU2MSwzOjIwMzMwLDM6MzAwNDAsMzoyMDI3NiwzOjIwMTQ2

http://www.bagoum.com/deckbuilder#MTo1MjcsMzo1MTAsMzoyMDE0OSwzOjUxMiwyOjUwNSwzOjIwMTQ3LDM6NTQ1LDM6MjAzNzEsMjoyMDM0NywzOjUxOSwzOjIwMTY1LDI6MjAzOTEsMzoyMDMzMCwzOjMwMDQwLDM6MjAyNzY=

Man Kara has some heavy armor on, yet now she has decided to load on a whole new plate.

While its hard to compete with the raw power of dedicated wall decks, dedicated vespyrs have their own appeal and can be a bit faster. The first variant favors aspects to give the deck a strong control angle, the second one goes all in on abusing Vespyr buffs including Cryonic Potential which is extra deadly when used on your early turns mixed with a cheap minion and or gravity well.

Vepyrs are a pretty sollid tribe that support each other fairly well. Of course you have the classic Elemental plus snowchaser spam, or how it combos with Bonechill Barrier which summons three walls that are Vespyrs. But more recently we have added wintertide to the mix which is another big buff for elemental and thanks to our multiple ways to summon mass Vespyrs even good old Borean Bear has turned into quite the threat. Add Animus plate to the mix and any Vespyrs on the field can snowball out of control really fast.

The deck also has a fair amount of wall focus thanks to Karas natural synergy with them thanks to her BBs, Luminous charge, if unanswered, is a staggering 15 damage. And should your opponents manage to escape the clutches of the walls they can instead be transformed with your aspects to chase people down.

Wisp is vanars best card of the expansion and is borderline oppressive, which is rather important as vanar has suffered greatly from nerfs and the rotation. But wisp came to the rescue and really pushes all vanar decks up a notch. Wisp not only ramps for you, but it also lowers your opponents mana! And if you dispel, bounce, or transform it, the effect is permanent. Wisp is best played defensively but not so far back it cant get into trade, as Idealy you play with it, trade once, and then transform it.

Between Elemental, Luminous, and Aspect of the Mountain you do pretty decent on AOE, you excel at body blocking and stalling, and developing fields that can overwhelm your opponent quickly. Snowchaser and Cryo mixed with your aggressive gameplan tends to keep you ok on card advantage, although running out of steam and vulnerability to burn are its biggest weakness, but the ability to win games fairly quickly, or push out some pretty devastating lategame combos prevents this from being to much of a concern.

Its a solid enough deck but it was much better during rotations, between the many fields wipes, and powerhouse late game stuff like winters wake back its trailing behind a bit now.

Of course my most successful Vespyr list puts the focus more on walls then Vespyrs, but it still counts:

DeathsAdvocate's Master Thread: Eternal Trials of Mythron

VVall Kara: Vespyr/Wall, S rank

Summary

http://www.bagoum.com/deckbuilder#MTo1MjcsMzo1MTAsMzoyMDE0OSwzOjUwNiwzOjIwMTQ3LDM6NTQ1LDM6NTE5LDM6MjAxNjUsMzo1NjEsMzoyMDMzMCwzOjIwMjc2LDM6MjAxNDYsMzo1MzgsMzoyMDIxMiwtMjoxMTA4NCwtMjoyMDEzNCwtMzoxMDk1NywtMzoyMDIyOQ==

A ramp wall deck packing the base vespyr shell for control, card advantage, and ramp. Oldschool glacial elemental provides us with pseudo aoe, particularly when combined with bonechill/winter tide, Shivers provides ramp, Snowchaser provides card advantage, and good old cryo is just a natural pick. Bonechill Barrier rarely makes the cut anymore, but between wake, karas bbs, and Elemental its a really natural fit.

While the deck does not have much Vespyr synergy beyond cryo/elemental they all tend to be solid standalone cards that really shine with karas BBs and more importantly augment our primary wall plans.

Karas bbs plus Luminous charge, if unanswered, is a staggering 15 damage. And even if they do get away from it you have aspects and or wake to let your walls chase them down.

Between Kara and Wake most other wall related combos like enfeeble are uneeded, but enfeeble is still a good sideboard card giving you a good answer to Divine Bond style decks and the like, its also good versus wanderer but that’s not typically a bad match-up. Toss in some healing, spot dispel, and artifact destruction in the sideboard and you have all your bases covered.

Mix that with the usual kara BBS/wall abuse, plus aspect of the mountain being a real powerhouse providing more AOE and a good transform for hate wisp, and you have a powerful deck that can ramp into its endgame very quickly while doing a good job at keeping the field clear. Short of a well timed EMP or Aoe the deck tends to roll over people, although burn decks are a bit of a toss up as we have a similar clock.

[thematsjo]

Those are some spicy tips, thank you so much!

I think I wanna put flavor over efficiency this time around, so I think I’m going to be conservative with my changes. I really wasn’t sure on Endless Hunt, do you actually endorse it (for my purposes)? I’m fine with nixing Myriad, I think I have a third Dryad anyway. I’ll probably need another 3-drop though .

[xRoyalty]

Oh? Doesn’t snowshot still go on the forums?

[snowshot]

actually was about to provide my take - i’m far from being a pro btw, just a slight madman.

regarding to vespyr my takes are usually far from the standard vespyr deck. hold on .

this is my take for several reasons (twice lost against this deck by lower elo players).
when you play vespyrs you need a rough gameplan, meaning either you hybrid vespyr with walls, building a chaser factory or playing good old vespyr which is good old midrange control with several buffing mechanisms and lots of triggers to snowman.

if you never played vespyr - start from my deck then go on to more complex decks, vespyr are hard decks to master by themselves.

p.s - 2 snowman are not much feel free to drop either might or animus for the other and another snowman