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Infinite backstab

#21

I always thought ranged general artifact is op in songhai

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#22

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This is what my theory crafting has gone towards. Not tested, but I would hope this breaks even for a wr. It’s meant to be a midrange deck with a bit of an arcanyst shell and artist would be your late game finisher. Biggest problem I see with this deck is simply weak minions, not really having a strong board presence unless you get lucky with owlbeast plays early on. I feel like lategame you are gonna run of cards or have nothing on the board. The sideboard is just some cards I’m thinking of including but not sure on. Plenty of ways to get back board with wreath cause you got a shit ton of movement and activator stuff, but you lose hand in doing so.

Overall, this deck is just a hybrid arcanyst/backstab, pure backstab is no bueno. I’ll try a couple games with it but I don’t have a good feeling.

EDIT: nevermind, can’t test this because I don’t have artist

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#23

But don’t craft fox. It’s second worst Hai card…right after Joseki.

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#24

Woah there @alplod, are you dissing one of the best memes there? And not even considering koan of horns! smh

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#25

While I hate Koan more than any other card in the history of the game, it was actually used to consistently ladder to S for multiple seasons by dedicated user/s so I’ll give it that I guess.

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#26

It is highly debatable which hai card is the worst outside of joseki, Energy Amulet says hi.

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#27

So I made some changes to my deck and now it looks like this deckLandscapeSonghai%20(1)

And here’s replay:
https://play.duelyst.com/replay?replayId=-LbIbuvHWt7NefiE1dNe

I want to swap ornate hiogi for heaven’s eclipse later when i get the dust :stuck_out_tongue:

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#28

You need draw power with Meditate. Putting cards in the deck is fine but you have to draw them too :slight_smile:

Hiogi seems a mediocre solution for that. I think there are better solutions till you get Heaven’s Eclipse.

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#29

BTW, given how many spells you run, Loreweaver (rare) could be a nice budget draw solution. It is also an Arcanyst, so it may benefit from Owlbeast!

Also, the deck looks pretty playable. I may give it a shot one day.

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#30

Yeah i swapped ornate hiogi for loreweaver bcs of the arcanyst synergy

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#31

This reminds me of a deck that Prostobot was running it was like Backstab/Arcanysts with Twilight Fox. I don’t have the list though.

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#32

Syvrel has to be in it too :smiley:

I have a deck like that (without Arcanysts though except Scroll Bandit).

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#33

Nonono, you shouldn’t have backstabbing minions in such deck! Only the general, only hardcore!

BTW, tested this deck in silver with -3 Hiogi, -3 Ethereal Blades, +3 Loreweavers, +3 healing mystics, it’s pretty good…in silver, at least. Got about 6/2 wr.

But it definitely needs more tinkering. Alcuins and Meditates seem underwhelming. Maybe Alcuin Loremaster instead of Fugitive, and I dunno, Trinity Wing? Or Illu as a usual choice for an Arcanyst deck? Or even, really, some Heaven Eclipses?

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#34

Well my comment was in regards to Nik’s :smiley:

Don’t want to water down tobiahu’s deck idea!

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#35

This game really needs a big patch with new cards to tinker with :frowning:

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#36

So I made a new deck variation to be even more backstabby

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Mana vortex-to pull off combos and draw card with ornate hiogi
Meditate-to put 15 obscuring blow in our deck
obscuring blow-to stack backstab damage on our general. Main card
Flicker, substitution, silhouette tracer, repulsor, bangle, mist walking - to position our general behind enemy for backstab. Bangle is also for double backstab.
alcuin fugitive- to copy our spells each turn
Q’orrhlama-we don’t have 2 cost minions so we might get rid of enemy ones too.
paddo-when enemy is hugging wall hard with his general
Zendo-to unable enemy genral movement or lure him for backstab
Magi-to heal while we cast spells including double cast bbs

I will play this deck a lot and test it and post replays later :smiley:

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#37

https://play.duelyst.com/replay?replayId=-LbmO95aqRA2IjcqCBNv
This game i manadged to backstab 23/10 minion and then backstab enemy general for 20 damage :smiley:

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#38

interestingly Qlorhma and ornate hiogi were once used together to run “DDOS”-hai :smiley: it forced the opponent to watch through several animations during their entire turn, while Q goes face each turn.

iirc they patched it out tho

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#39

And one day we will have our revenge for this injustice.

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#40

Green Songhai can still DDOS. Surely they would be willing to avenge their red brothers.

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