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What do you mean by “heavier”? Do you just want a solid Ziran deck list or what are you looking for?

Heavier - big minions, new interactions and yes solid decks might just do

I’m afraid Ziran is bottom tier in the current meta, both @thematsjo and I independently tried to make her work with no success. I would be happy to be wrong though, so if anyone is doing good with her, please let us know.

I may even consider giving her a second try, but I think the only reasonably competitive Lyonar lists at the moment are Titan and Swarm

This is my Paladin deck that I’ve been working on and adding to over time. Have had a lot of success with it though I haven’t been playing it a lot recently. Did have a couple Lyonar quests though and won almost all of my games in Diamond last month and Gold this month.

The 1-of Excelsious and Elyx are placeholders until I get something better, most likely Aperion’s Claim, though honestly Elyx isn’t bad.

Nothing very “heavy” here I’m afraid. Found Sunstrike to be quite delightful and may switch out a Sanctify for a second. Everything else I feel is pretty standard.

Maybe check directly by personal message with @kevin2hard ?

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I tried, the dude wasn’t online for a few days now

Do you have all the key cards already?

Yes i’ve got all the key cards

would reliquarian work with ziran, you could use a buffed up excelsisos as fuel

I’m sorry but I really can’t think of anything worthwhile that plays big minions. Zir’An’s late game is notoriously weak and other Generals do almost any ‘big minion’ strategy better than Zir’An does. You can play Titan with Zir’An but why would you, you know? The biggest I’d go is my own Grindforge list or one of the variations in the comments or I could whip you up a Pain deck with Sworn Avenger and Ruby Rifter. Excelsious is just thát weak almost all of the time.

If Excelsious somehow managed to stick I think you’ve likely already won the match without needing to use Reliquarian. Reliquarian on top of that would just be overkill, and very unreliable at that. It really bugs me that Lyonar’s got probably the weakest of the six Relics by the way.

Maybe an ultimate jank OTK list with Reliquarian, Excelsious, Magnetize, Aegis, Martyrdom, Claim and a ton of heal procs? Stall the game till 9 mana, drop Exce-E + Barrier, pray, punch, punch, Relic, punch for lethal?

Maybe Prominence could be worthwhile in Zir’An, what do you think?

Maybe in a Bond deck that happens to run Sunforge Lancer? Prominence requires a pretty slow play style and Brome’s advantage is the ability to guarantee a Provoke in a spot you can control. I’ve never had Prominence override the Crestfallen so I’m pretty sure at this point that it’s just not possible so there’s no risk there either. With Bond, War Judicator, Guardian, Prominence and so on I can see that deck working okay, but I don’t see how it wouldn’t work better with Argeon or Brome. Healing a big thing can be great but doing so just doesn’t seem to come up very much. Could be worth a try, something like this?

I’d like you if I could. Should check this.

I have a folder with decklists I wanna try on my desktop. This one definitely goes there :slight_smile:

i honestly gave up because i find argeon was better but i like the challenge so here i go. im gunna ladder with ziran again to diamond rank of course cause im a diamond scrub lol

Well then - i did create a argeon ironcliffe/bond deck which is fun.
With 3 iron c. + 3 ironcliffe hearts + bond and alot of fun minions.

Hooo a cake? What’s up with the cake?

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Anniversary of the day you joined the forum.

Ha… ok, where’s my actuall cake?

Good question…can we blame Magmar for this injustice as well?

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THEY ATE MY CAKE!!
(or plasma storm it…)

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