id argue there are plenty of finishers in duelyst that do consistently over 10 damage and are 7 mana, most games end there, i think id be more then fair for there to be a 2 cost placable creep spell to combo with at 8, as it is you dont even always have that the needed creep to do more then 10 dmg by 8 anyways.
Help me build my ultimate shadow creep deck
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As you said, manaforger and also Adjudicator can discount the spell cost, and darkfire sacrifice can discount the tormentor himself.
Not that I advice it, but it’s fun when it works.
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Lets bring back kevins thread:40 cards are not enough
*they are enough but i still want to make a dying wish swarm ramp creep abyssian hybrid 
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Indeed they do, but most decks don’t have as powerful delay tools to consistently get to 8 mana even against aggro decks (for example Punish, Void Pulse and now Munch).
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true, but those decks also dont have to build up a board to get to there win con to begin with as such those stall tools are neccisary, songhai is a great example since they can build a deck that can consistently get face damage each turn and stay away from the opponet all game.
this isnt to say songhai is overpowered but rather to point out those tools arent too strong to allow for it, besides its not like adding a 2 mana placable creep will made the deck s tier capable of beating all other decks, stong yes but not broken.
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so let me get this straight:
you want to drop shadow creeps like no tomorrow
and then after a billion years, complete xorxull trial
wait for pangea to continental drift as you draw mirrorim,
wait for global warming to kill all life on the planet as you draw and summon darkspines
and then win the game since your opponent lost his entire lifespan just trying to watch you do all off this?
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yes the slower you can stall the game the better. 
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You may as well try mill victory using 1 copy of unfathomable rite. It will be faster.
@cloudfrog, I loled hard. Thank you so much for your contribution!
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@cloudfrog
It’s not like i want to go to the ultra late game in every game, I just want this deck to have a potential to do so with all board filled with creep and 12 times creep dmg
@alplod
yeah i also considered using 3 unfathomable rites to thin opponent’s deck + those 3 cards that steal minion and give it +1/+1 but that would require me to build a deck that’s easy to dump my hand with so i can fill it with enemy cards. It draws cards from enemy deck, not copies if i’m correct?
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You are correct.
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Stealing 3x6 + 3=21 cards seems super powerful, giving that every time rite is played the hand is empty. That would reduce enemy deck to just 19 cards so it would be much easier in late game
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im sorry dude, i’ll have to stop you right there to redo your math.
okay so that’s at least 3 turns where you have to cast unfathomable rite and at least 2 turns (drawing roughly 12 1-mana cards) in between where you have to empty your hand.
you do know that’s at least 1 turn past 9-mana even if you had all the luck in the world right?
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By the time you got 3 off the game is probably already lost because you spent 3 turns doing abseloutely nothing on the board
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ok then maybe unfathomable rite is bad idea, what cards would be good in my deck then?
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None?
Creep is not fast enough to kill fault underlord or wanderer in time nor does it have the lategamestrengh to compete with these (unless you REALY luckout and find them unable to answer juggernaut)
If you want to be competetive creep is not a good idea
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@terrarius
i was thinking about adding juggernaut, he seems good since i aim to cover all board in creep. What cards could i put in to counter these decks you mentioned?
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Obliterate is the best creep card but it requires lots of creep to be useful and last time I checked it was pretty hard to get enough creep to reliably trigger a KO.
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@phoinexflame
I would avoid adding obliterate in my deck because if i manage to drop near 12 darkspine elementals my creep deal way more damage than obliterate and it keeps me safe from damage because i probably end up hiding in a corner covered in creep so enemy can’t come near me anyway because he will die. The real question is how do i survive to that point where i drop xor’xuul with 12 elementals and fill the board with creep
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How would you get so many Darkspine Elementals? Also, it is unideal to run Xor’Xull with creep.
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@halcyon98
by using 3 mirrorims(shuffle 3 copies of a minion into deck) on darkspine elementals. Also xor’xuul is there to deny my enemy option to remove them for pernament 12 times creep dmg
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