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Help ending a losing streak in ranked?

#1

So I went from winning pretty much 4/5 games and getting frequent 7-8 win streaks to being on a 10 loss losing streak. I don’t understand why it’s happening but I’m about to just change my entire deck and/or just straight up change decks and toss all my abyssian cards in the trash for tiny amounts of spirit. I play the same deck the same way every single time and now it just is not working. I’ve even been losing to people who don’t even use epics and legendaries and still use base core cards. I honestly think I messed up somewhere along the line with my collection and I’m starting to get fed up with losing every single game. Every turn feels like me trying to establish any kind of board and then getting shut down by 1 card or getting burned to death by vanar/songhai (which btw I don’t care what CCG it is burn is annoying and people need to stop thinking they’re good for playing it because it is literally just solitaire). Any help or advice that people think would help me would be great. Cause I can’t exactly build my collection when I lose every single game.

Here’s sentinel swarm the same as it’s been for almost a week now:

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#2

These things happen periodically. Either you have hit your skill cap or you are just having bad luck. In both cases, taking a small break and having a second look at the game with fresh eyes might certainly help

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#3

Hence the …

From Sentinel Swarm: Abyssian deck build

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#4

I honestly feel like I’m kind of a crap player for this but uh I haven’t even gotten to gold yet. I’m at silver still. But every loss is either me getting completely crushed without having any counters to anything they’re doing or losing to a random turnaround last second during endgame from a single card they use (literally got killed by blood taura a few games ago after getting them to one health and having a fully established board. I couldn’t do the 12 damage to kill it with how my minions were placed even with furor chakram)

#5

I agree with tsevech, also testing your deck more and find out what isn’t working to improve it helps as well.

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#6

I was looking back on my losses and why they happened and I think I figured it out. My deck has zero dispel in it. Most of my losses (like the one against blood taura. Aswell as my loss in mirror matches) was always because I has no dispel. I was thinking of adding ephemeral shrouds/EMP but what other dispels should I look at?

#7

Lighbender dispells or hard removal through minion like Sunset Paragon

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#8

The lack of healing without a fast game plan leaves you very vulnerable to burn decks. And as usual AOE will be tough on you, sounds like you have just been running into a lot of that. And yes burn decks are an unfortunate solitaire archtype, many people share your pain there, but it is what it is.

So to combat burn you have some very cheap tools available to you. Shadow Dancer is a classic swarm tool. And then there is always healing mystic/azure herald. And as always allthough it’s not cheap, Desolator. Alternatively you could try going more a hyper Swarm route with the goal of winning in the first few turns, although that is harder to do on a budget.

One major change I would suggest is Demonic Lure over punish. Punish is awkward to use since you don’t have ping, and lure can also sort of fill dispels role by making things that you don’t actually want dead just go away.

It’s hard to make strait recommendations as you do have a sollid deck with synergy built in, but it does certainly have some holes in its strategy that you are now bumping into. So as usual I will just recommend you take a look at my budget guide or my master thread for something you want to work towrds.

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#9

I just wish to hell that DA would do some work on Zir’an as am having a nightmare with my Zir’an control deck…don’t have much sympathy for swarm (as it’s a pain for my creep deck!!!) but know the feeling…

#10

I actually prefer punish over ritual banishing half the time. Cause the extra 1 mana cost is kind of lame when I can (most of the time) just smack them with a 1/1 wraithling then toss a punish on them. But I feel like lure could indeed help with some of my problems I’ve been having. Thanks for the suggestion! I’ve found where the holes lie in my strategy with my deck and honestly against magmar I find i generally insta-lose to hard counter cause magmar has 101 ways of getting rid of abyssian swarms. I also like the shadow dancer Idea and might toss a couple of them in. Although I fear she will end of meeting the same fate as bloodtide priestess where I generally have better plays I could do instead of puking up the mana for her just so she can get dispelled which was why I didn’t add her in at first.

#11

This seems like a common new player trap. Ritual banishing is amazing and is basically unconditional for lillith.

Punish still requires the sacrifice of a wraithling or your generals health, which is extra bad considering your both a slow deck and lack healing. Plus you often may not be able to reach/damage what you need removed.

While Punish is a solid card, it is not really good for lillith, ritual and lure is amazing. I can not stress this enough. Punish is made for cass who is not good with ritual.

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#12

I think DA’s point is for Case creepers like me, ping is part of the strategy as we use it to create tiles, as opposed to Lillithe…

#13

Also about burn decks. I have a LONG history with burn since before I even played duelyst. Burn decks are a very popular deck people like to use in yugioh online and sometimes even at tournaments. There’s a joke among the yugioh community that burn players are those guys that don’t actually want to play the game. They just want to see their opponent’s flip the table and get kicked out of the event.

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#14

This kind of shit will happen from time to time. This morning I had a Gauntlet run at 6-0. Lost three in a row and so of course I didn’t get the Gauntlet ticket.

By the time I finished my quests I realised I had only gotten my First Win of the Day reward in the second to last game.

When it happens you have to carefully analyse and see where things went wrong. Were you tilted by previous losses that threw you off your game? Is there an inherent weakness in your deck? If you were doing really well before, consider if you were lucky or if you were having really good matchups and that the recent losing streak is the other end of that spectrum.

Something you want to avoid doing is letting your frustration get the better of you and start spiraling by trying every deck you have and immediately switching to another when you lose or altering decks you have built without careful consideration because you’ve been losing a lot recently and just want to change something in the hopes of getting a win.

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#15

i’ll look into getting a third ritual banishing. Hopefully All works out well and I can get some more wins in. I actually just got 2 wins but they were a little too close for comfort (I’ll even admit that half the time I win is lucksack Furor Chakram)

(also just thought of something i’ve never bothered to try. Does furor chakram’s attack gain stack?)

#16

It does, but frenzy does not. I do not think I have ever been in a position where I wanted to equip a second chakram rather then developing more board and saving another incase my first gets broken. But hey it could happen, you may really need to kill something or get lethal, so it is an option.

#17

I figured out that half of them were lucksacks and the other half were against burn and/or hard counters like magmar plasma storm spam. I was also getting VERY tilted after the 5th loss in a row. NGL was about to try to fight my computer after the 7th one.

#18

You say luck sack, but there is not a lot of luck in this game, between small deck size, cycles, and the replace mechanic, its actually pretty unlikely not to see one copy of a 3x card if you dig for it hard.

Without just completely reworking your deck there are a couple small things you can improve on. Since your not a hyper swarm deck I dont think Zyx is doing much for you, pop a herald or mystic in its spot and trade punish for lure. 2x ritual is fine, but your deck is a bit slow, so you may want to consider cutting a wraithling swarm for a third banish since wraithling swarm can be a bit situational and rarely makes the cut in most of my lists.

(Also just remember turn one plays and mana contesting is important, if its your only good play DO PLAY a healing mystic/azure herald turn one despite the lack of healing. The only card you really do not want to open with is furosa since its effect is to important and you pretty much never want to play it without procing it.)

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#19

I generally use zyx as turn one pseudo gloomchaser for one less mana and my favorite opening is zyx + sphere of darkness (which once the big ol’ cycle happens zyx is insta out of my deck no matter what cause rip SoD) cause I can screw over P2’s mana tile and also position zyx so that I can easily grab my two mana tiles. I’ve been considering cutting down on wraithling swarm because the only time I really like seeing it is if I also have a furor chakram either already equipped or sitting in my AB or if i just didn’t draw into any other good plays as P2 (it’s fun seeing my opponent cry when I get greedy with the mana tiles when I grab the one they positioned their minion to grab). I’ll probably add azure herald since it has more health which makes it even better when I have furor chakram up.

(I honestly forgot about healing generals because in yugioh cards that give you life points are never used so I just assume most CCG games are the same unless they are based around messing around with health like Maehv or Healyonar)

#20

If you want to I could do a video replay analysis for you and help you finding gameplay mistakes you do.

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