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#550

its for the december contest which has the keyword from another faction as this months theme and as such grow made sense with the whole idea of this thing

though you are right about it feeling bloated, though i wanted to to be potentially dangerous with things like deathfire crescendo (imagine thistle has +20/+20 and passes it to the sprout which passes +18/+18 to the next one next turn)

so i dont think i could get rid of grow, but ill try to work on making it less messy.

edit:didnt knowtice you added grow on the sprout, might try your suggestion.

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#551

(Just cleaned up my own post a little bit)

Did not suggest getting rid of grow, it’s still on the sprout and core to the design. It just was not really doing anything other then adding a bunch of text on thistle. Transform effects don’t keep stats, that’s just how they work.

I did not understand you were hoping to have it be like mirror meld with buffs, and while neat it’s probably redundant, since if you have a 20/20 your probably going to win anyways. Trying to make a multiplying, transforming, cloning minion is just to bloated. Ought to pick two of those.

I currently left what I think would be a great version of it, but if you wanted to make it more about cloning it’s self you could totaly remake it more in that direction.

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#552

it was more of the idea to pervent it being so easy to remove but i saw what your saying and appreciate the suggestion :>

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#553

Hi! I’ve already posted a concept for the Monthly Card Design Contest, but I was wondering if somebody might like to use the concept of giving a Vanar Artifact that gives the general Backstab. I feel it might further promote the use of the infiltrate mechanic which I don’t feel is being used to its full potential!

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#554

Looking for some feedback on my entry before it gets lost in the incoming wave :smiley:

Brazier Spirit
SongHai
4 Mana 4/4
Blast, Cannot move

Explanation

Positioning is key in SongHai, and this minion is the epitomy of it. Honestly Blast is the abiliity that needs movement spells more than anything, so Songhai is the best faction for it :slight_smile: Thought about it being a 3/3 for 3, but the Inner Focus threshold is a little too strong to overlook.

Art Direction

Cute lil fire spirit in a brazier :smiley:

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#555

What do you guys think of this, i’m pretty proud of it being simple yet elegant

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#556

Looks pretty broken.

For 1 more mana we get two more attack then Sarlac or Gor. Considering the one health is completly either irrelevant or actually beneficial, and it’s not even a random spawn or far spawn, it’s specifacly in a useful location, this card is broken!

I think 4 mana 1/1, backstab 3, spawned by an enemy minion would be plenty good on its own.

I do really like the immortal minions and would love to have more of them for my Eternal Army deck. I don’t know how much use Abyss will get out of backstab though, other then whip they have no position manipulation at all. Still, it’s a cool idea.

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#557

I think I’ll bump the cost then or maybe not, I want her to be really strong. Like it and it’s combos aren’t near as strong as ironcliffe guardian. Plus it’s not like it has rush or anything, your opponent will always have a chance to move out of the way of the backstab. Also, I know abyssian doesn’t manipulate positioning much, that’s why I gave it the dying wish to compensate. I doubt she’d get played at 5 mana.

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#558

Maybe 4 mana, 1/1, backstab 4.

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#559

I made it a 2/1 backstab(4) 3 attack was a little too much I think. plus that enforces the back stabbing :slight_smile:

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#560

I just noticed something, is it a true Sarlac effect? Or if she does not have an enemy next to her when she dies she vanishes?

Sort of weird if it’s the latter, but that does balance it.

I would greatly prefer 4 mana, 1/1, backstab: 4, dying wish: Spawn on a random square next to an enemy.

But if your intention was to put in a neat counterplay option to actually kill her without dispel, that is also cool, and is balanced with the current stats.

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#561

it says “enemy” not “enemy minion” which includes the general. that would actually be a really good counter for this

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#562

The Apprentice of Sands sounds great: interesting effect, quite strong in the right decks, yet not blatantly overpowered. Lifesurge Obelysk is also fine, but it doesn’t seem as creative as the other one imho…

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#563

So, what do you think ? I think it’s well balanced, but I still want your opinions. I’ll add the lore later.

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#564

Simple, balanced, and flavorful. Filling the much needed three slot and ranged slot.

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#565

It seems balanced, but I don’t know…
I get what you’re doing trying to give Magmar a solid 3 drop and all, but it’s name and description looks like something you’d see on a 5 or 6 drop…
Maybe if it was a “young” blazing behemoth or some equivalent it would click better, if you get what I mean.

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#566

Ah yes, I see what you’re trying to say. Gonna see if Ican fix that as I had the same feeling.

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#567

Does my card violate the rules?
I am thinking the rule of not allowing “Summoning Dervish” only applies to non-vet factions, correct me if I’m wrong.

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#568

I really like that idea actually thanks :slight_smile:

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#569

I don’t believe in asking for feedback without giving in return. Here’s the whole shebang :smiley:

@coldhands

Frosted Springs

Massively superior to Earth Sphere. The continuous General heal in addition to minion healing… despicable. It’s a little overpowered but thematically it’s great. No reason to change the mechanics, just a little number tweaking.

Icestand Obelysk

Perfect. Wouldn’t change a thing, and although I’ve seen a lot of Dervish Permanence concepts this one makes the most sense in my opinion.

@oranos

Deathfire Cannon

Pretty standard, has the same weaknesses and fills pretty much the same role as Scarab except 1 mana more and infinitely more potential. Really feast or famine, and we all know how those cards work out in Duelyst. Still, it sounds awesome, particularly in combination with free bodies from Zirix BBS and Obelysks.

@eternamemoria

Calamitous Scavenger

It’s not great, I’ll be honest. 5 mana for a 3/2 body that fills your hand with either replace fodder or insane value (think Obelysk and Abyssian counter). Also, Natural Selection renews itself if you cast it, so your hand size never goes down. Your action bar is more or less stuck until this minion dies.

The best synergy it has is with Aethermaster, since it will draw for you like crazy, but it doesn’t fit a single Magmar archetype and the rebirth seems just tacked on to make it more annoying. I see what you were going for, but this minion seems designed to drain your opponent’s removal and keep your hand unreasonably healthy.

Sunmirror Obelysk

The name deceived me into thinking this was a Lyonar minion. This minion’s risk to reward is pitiful: 4 mana for whats basically a single 3 attack dervish. A cool positioning idea, but it’s just too weak even in comparison to Fireblaze Obelysk, which costs 1 less. You should probably rework it.

@anastenazontas

Essence Freezer

Why are all the Deathwatch cards so broken :< Stun is really goddamn strong, and Deathwatch is easy to catch when you run Snowchasers and the heaviest removal faction in the game. I’d remove the General stun at least: Beam Shock and Zendo should teach you that taking away your opponent’s ability to act just feels horrible to experience. A cool idea, but I can’t condone this existing in its current state.

@deathsadvocate

Shinobi of the Frozen Moon

Cool concept bro, but it’s a bit too similar to Katara with less synergies. You are right about it being weak due to lack of mobility, but Katara has Shadow Waltz, Killing Edge and other synergies to make up for when you can’t get a backstab off. I think the risk/reward is a little off: at worst its a 1/3 for 1, which isn’t horrendous anyway, and at best you get 7 damage on the enemy General (basically a 1 mana Spiral Technique)

@mrmana3

Silithar Guardian

Comparing it to Dreadnought I can see it being a little too strong with certain cards such as Silithar Elder and Chrysalis Burst, the Zeal feels tacked on and it doesn’t have Rebirth despite being a Silithar (theming baby!). Still, a neat idea :slight_smile:

Iron Cloth

It doesn’t actually work for the contest, but I love this idea :smiley: Really fits Vet’s close range spells and high value high health minions. Honestly its stupid strong, but it makes good competition for Lyonar’s Regalia. Wouldn’t change this for anything.

@skulldragon42

Unnamed Magmar Minion

Low stats for Magmar for not a strong enough effect. I like the concept (Starhorn synergy ftw!) but the body is a massive loss considering the enemy card draw. Could stand some number tweaking and a refocusing of what its actually supposed to DO.

I’d suggest the name Nidhoggr btw, but that’s just me.

@akurane

Lifesurge Obelysk

You could’ve made this a 3 Mana 0/5 and it would’ve been fine. I love this concept, it ties in well to immobility of Structures and Vet’s close range affinity. No complaints at all :smiley:

Apprentice of Sands

Underwhelming for 5 Mana. Considering the implied cost of artifact investment, I’d suggest lowering the mana or raising the stats. Even without Zeal this would work, but its got extra thematic strength from the ability :smiley:

@gabriek

Shadow Assassin

Clever idea, but baiting dispel with a 4 mana card is a little counterintuitive. I like the concept overall, but you could reword it to just say “Summon a Shadow Assassin nearby a random enemy.” instead of getting all fancy with the parentheses. Its a tricky card to play around, but its certainly possible. Thematically solid for Abyssian, I give this card a 7/10 :wink:

dewize

Blazing Behemoth

Firebreathing Dragon is cool, a plain 3/3 is not. Uninspiring, but solid. I don’t really know what to say, it’s just a solid card.

telvoc

Ziggurat

Doesn’t break any rules. Breaks the goddamn game though. Consider this: you summon a dervish and smack it against the enemy general. It dies. You get another Dervish. Repeat until victory. At only 3 Mana too, wtf. This one is horrendously OP and that’s a rule violation in the contest :confused: I’ll admit, that was the first combo I thought of as well, but it’s just too silly with Rush Dervishes.

And that’s all of them. Wow, this took a while.

edit: sorry telvoc and dewize, I can’t mention more than 10 users in a post.

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