Fan Card Design Hub: Discussion (+Card Design Contest Discussion)

[zanestheargent]

Card Design Contest [#4/2018]

Armsmaster Renn
Neutral Minion
7 mana 5/7
Rush. Cannot attack Generals.

Hey, look, SV rush, good. But really guys, is this round’s theme tampering on decks or hating on Wanderer?

[anjosustrakr]

SV rush

Don’t you mean… Hearthstone Rush?

And you left out the important text for your Wanderer statement:

Card Design Contest [#4/2018]

When Armsmaster Renn destroys a minion, remove all copies of that minion from both players’ deck and action bar. If there were no other copies, reactivate Armsmaster Renn.

[victorious23]

It’s a good 9 mana combo with Boundless Courage to clear the entire board
All interactions with Wanderer are purely coincidental and not intended

[victorious23]

Wait I’m an idiot this is a creature not an spell or artifact

[alexx55]

Hearthstone Rush?

SV did it first, it was the new keyword of their first non-classic expansion

[alexx55]

Card Design Contest [#4/2018]

Kaiju Transformation Magmar Spell 8 Mana Your Bloodbound Spell is now AWESOME.

Vaath's awesome BBS

Your General gains the combined attack and health of all minions with Grow in your deck and action bar.

Starhorn's awesome BBS

Both players draw a card. Burn cards from your opponent’s deck equal to the number of cards in their action bar.

Ragnora's awesome BBS

Summon a random egg nearby your General. Shuffle a minion with Rebirth into your deck.

Is this the new Saurian???

[alplod]

Card Design Contest [#4/2018]

Not sure what happens when you give a battle pet rush

Pretty nothing. Tested this with Hatefurnace. It has rush, but doesn’t act immediately.

Speaking of your design… Isn’t making anything into Abyssal Jug that has rush a bit too much even for 6 mana?

Card Design Contest [#4/2018]

Abyssal Breacher Abyssian Minion 4 mana (3/3) Shuffle five Inner Darkness into the enemy deck. Inner darkness Abyssian “spell” 0 mana while you have inner darkness, you cannot play cards. At the end of turn, create an enemy shadow creep in your general’s space. *im really undecided so… apologize me if the cost/stats aren’t the best, focus on the effect =)

Making your opponent randomly lose his turn with probabilty increasing towards the end of a game is OP as hell. Nothing can justify it, IMO.

I would probably make the token spell smth like

1 mana
Create an enemy shadow creep under your general. You can’t play other cards when this is in your action bar.

This way it’s still annoying cause:

1. The opponent either loses his replace OR 1 mana and card advantage.
2. It still produces creep. Under the general. So Tormentor next turn.

But it’s not losing the entire turn at least.

[halcyon98]

It seems like a good bulk of the submissions do not entirely follow this month’s prompt. Not only should the card interact with the opponent’s deck, it should also be a spell or an artifact. I personally don’t like it too much, but that’s what it is.

[bepoest]

I DIDN’T READ it has to be a spell or artifact.

Oh, well. I enjoyed what I did, anyway.

But back to the drawing board I suppose.

Let me archive here the entry I was so proud of.

Card Design Contest [#4/2018]

Design notes

Hekareon Class - A
Neutral Mech
7 mana (6/7)
Destroy all Destinies.
Bond: Both players draw the 2 highest costed Neutral cards from their deck.

Introducing tutors is sort of against the Duelyst general design, but with Deceptib0t and Replicant it seems almost like a Mech tribe feature. Let’s reinforce that with a symmetrical tutor that might both enrich the Mech archetype, and encourage the return of old school neutral Legendaries.

It’s a hard counter to Trial and Destinies on an inefficient body, in the best tradition of narrow-application tech cards. The Bond’s symmetrical aspect provides a built-in counter to the counter, if opposing decks start to pack fatty back-up Neutral win conditions.

Various options can be considered when building your deck with this card if you want to take advantage of the Bond draws, which can possibly provide a thematic assembly line, industrial-grade, repeatable end game.

[halcyon98]

It’s such an odd prompt, isn’t it? I understand the appeal of a card that interacts with the opponent’s deck as it’s a new mechanic to explore, but why should it be a spell or an artifact? It’s restriction without cause.

[victorious23]

A question to @excogitator about his card: Will it even disrupt the trial? Wanderer was changed to scan for trial completion when you queue into game, so wouldn’t the trial already be completed?

[anon52821416]

well let’s see, it doesn’t have a giant minion attached to the buffs unlike Variax or Kraigon.

Vaath’s buffs can be dispelled and it doesn’t stun the enemy general nor does it reduce Mana AND it has the requirement of focusing on Grow in your deck.

Starhorn’s BBS does nothing against bad board states nor does it even help the DeciSpikes combo more than the regular BBS, it’s strictly a control tool or an alternate wincon for very long games.

Rag’s BBS could potentially kill the Ripper combo, but it could also let you spawn a Silithar Elder egg for 1 Mana, while replenishing your deck at the same time, however both the egg spawn and the deck-minion could be Young Silithars, so this is extremely risk-reward.

[zanestheargent]

While out of the contest, the heavy talk on positional gameplay on other threads brought me this shitpost in mind:

Panopticon - Neutral minion

aka it is EVERYWHERE. Always near your general for Lyonar purposes, always behind your foes for Songhai playthings, always a Howling Overdrive target even when in your side of the map, etc.

[victorious23]

Horrible, it’s always open to Avalanche

/s

[halcyon98]

Fan Card Design Hub: Submissions (Updated 10/31)

Ka’al the Viridescent Magmar Minion 5 mana 4/6 Frenzy. Whenever this minion takes damage, randomly transform that many cards in your opponent’s deck into Shards of Retaliation. Shard of Retaliation Magmar token spell 0 mana Deal 3 damage to your General. Cast this card when drawn.

Design Explanation

As a member of the Thirteen Aspects, Ka’al was an immortal forefather of the Magmar Aspects and a scared practitioner of the Dance of Dreams. Unfortunately, not much is known about him, aside …

Anyone care to give an opinion on this? I’m afraid it doesn’t follow this month’s prompt well enough.

[bepoest]

Besides it being a Minion and not conforming to the prompt, I think it might be too punishing. 12 cards are going to be dead in the opponent’s deck, BUT ALSO mandatory 3 damage and no draw on that turn?

Savage.

[halcyon98]

Balancing can be adjusted. As for the prompt, I tried to follow it with the token spell that casts itself when it is drawn. I just don’t think that fits the prompt very well.

[bepoest]

I now understand your reasoning and I would ask the organizer if I were you, the design is interesting overall but it’d be too bad to be disqualified on a technicality.

I have a similar issue trying to figure out the balance of my own entry.

Card Design Contest [#4/2018]

Fount of Abortion Abyssian Artifact 2 mana Intensify: Whenever your General takes damage, deal that much damage to 1 random Minion in your opponent’s deck.

Design notes

Intensify on an Artifact is something to be tried, and can be enabled by Artifact Hunter. Although in this case we are in the dangerous theme of Abyssian self-hurt, which poses an interesting strategy choice. The cumulated payoff is potentially very good, and could strongly reinforce the relatively stronger Abyssian end game …

If anyone wants to comment, I’d be happy.

[halcyon98]

That’s a great idea. But I guess there is the problem of minions with Dying Wish dying inside the deck. Maybe it can decrease the Attack instead of dealing damage? I guess that would dilute the flavor of literally aborting a minion, but it wouldn’t have coding issues.

[bepoest]

Thanks. Un-summoned corpses is kind of the point ultimately, and I figure if this card was to be implemented IRL then the devs would have to handle this case. I assume it would be trivial to make the Dying Wish routine fizzle when the Minion is not on the board.