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Buildmar: is it recommended?

#2

This a pretty expensive deck, I wouldnt recommend anyone to start with it, rather to go slow and ease in with cheaper magmar lists, because otherwise you’re just betting too much spirit on this gamble of actually having a lasting liking for the deck or not

But sometimes we just know what we want, right? I know the only Lyonar deck I’d ever play is wizard brome, so even if its a gamble, its so evident that I’d like it that I’d burn spirit to craft it- if I had plenty
You just gotta know if you’re on the same situation as that, if you’re sure you’re gonna love it, then might as well go all the way, fearlessly so

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#3

Thanks for the advice! I guess I can try crafting more staple cards like Makantor or Rebuke first, and then cards like Gigaloth.

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#4

I do not recommend it. It has so many hard counters, plus is not the easiest deck to play. It is just getting a lot of attention right now because its good vs Fault/Wanderer, and Khanuum-Kas mere existence makes people to afraid to play what would otherwise be meta hard counters to this.

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#5

Makes sense. I’ll keep that in mind.

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#6

Combo Rag with Timekeeper + 4 mana 7/7 + 2 mana 10/10 is p-good.

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#7

Maybe? Not sure if it’s worth its price tag though.

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#8

Can you elaborate on these hard counters?

The only hard counters I can think of is Magmar midrange/control as they sport their usual plasma storm and natural selection tool box. There is not much else to speak of as a hard counter to buildmar and undispellable 0/10’s.

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#9

Nat select, plasma, rippers, aggro with lots of removal or displacement like cass as this will struggle trying to cram more healing in as it’s very awkward for its gameplan, any deck with decent AOE shuts down progenitor hard, decks with answer or die threats as this almost completely lacks answers and if you try to cram answers in the decks already awkward to pull off plan gets much harder.

It’s doing well right now because no one wants to play Vaath because of kha, no one wants to play answer or die because of Sand/BOA, there is very little swarm so AOE is kind of light, and Aggro is being teched agasnt a lot right now so it’s sort of on the back foot other then tempo Ziran which is bad versus this.

And even now Ragnaora in general can tear it up pretty bad just thanks to rippers. It’s a pretty dang good choice for this miserable meta that we have, but it has so many down sides the fact that it’s a decent anti meta deck is not worth an investment. If you just have the stuff and want to play the meta game even though there are things that make you fold hard then that’s fine, I hate getting countered that hard, and if the meta shifts at all the deck could very quickly go back to being pretty bad rather then being the niche counter propped up by rag that it currently is.

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#10

58%20PM

I just pulled the second best orb of my life and got an Architect. Is this a sign?

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#11

I think every other card here is a sign :slight_smile: Have you tried @deathsadvocate and @alplod’s Abhorrent Unbirth / Dying Wish decks?

To stay on topic, I really really understand the appeal of this Build Magmar deck. To hell with the competitive aspect. I want to build Gigaloth cities and stomp Healing Mystics.

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#12

So I scraped together about 3000 spirit. Should I craft my very first Mankantors?

#13

If you plan on playing Magmar at all you definitely should.

I played Buildmar a weak or two ago and found it rather fun, despite the fact that I generally hate Magmar so I would recommend trying it if you can.

On the other hand, I didn’t actually spend any spirit on the deck since I already had most of the required cards (although some things like Gigaloth got cut to a 2 of) so I can’t vouch If it feels worth its massive spirit cost.

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#14

3 of 'em! (15 chars)

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#15

I highly recommend crafting the Magmar staples first as I include them in my build variant. Once you have those you can build into my old version of the deck which I recently updated, and then if you still feel committed to continuing you can go the dedicated route along the lines of the deck you posted.

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#16

Cass really struggles in my experience. Even vaath with his NS and plasmas aren’t as hard a counter as you’d think if you’re running boundless, as a big start can often roll before storm comes online and vaath loses if you hold boundless. Only deck which truly can wail on build are eggs and hyperswarm, as they’re the only archetype which forces reactive play early. Though tbf, most vaaths I face are bad so the numbers may be skewed with respect to that mu.

Agreed on the point that OP should craft the staples first before attempting build.

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#17

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IS THIS A SIGN?

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#18

Bit off topic but anyone try arcanyst + grow/flourish

I used to play magmar a lot at the start with midrange and was not willing to invest in expensive cards until I tried all factions …
But never see grow tiles outside of gauntlet

#19

Wait… no apex?

#20

abhorrent unbirth maehv decks w/ saberspine tigers is evil

#21

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